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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
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 Posted - 18/05/2007 : 14:43:52
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What reason is there for thinking no call in?
Apparently residents are anyway engaged on a legal angle. So that is something. No point to a judicial review unless there is a good chance of its success. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5229 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2007 : 17:46:06
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| Well, let's see what the newly elected Conservatives are going to do. After all, one of their pre-election commitments was to call in the planning application wasn't it? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2007 : 18:32:21
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| The Hove residents have the matter in hand, I gather, and there is a long way to go with all this. GOSE does not envisage it being built. |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 18/05/2007 : 20:48:32
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The most interesting aspect of this King Alfred farce is that it has prompted so many good people in the know to quit the Planning Dept..
Maggie Brian, Ian Coomber, Luke Perkins.
They are nobody's fools. They know that it unworkable. |
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nightbird
Calaspia
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 10:23:10
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Originally posted by nightbird
So what happens now, does the fight continue.
Think we always new Ruth Kelly would rubber stamp these developments against local opinions....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/sussex/6670735.stm
Not sure if it is out there but it is time for someone to show real leadership about this.
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240 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 10:35:01
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| This democratic? system it doesn't not work, it didn't work for the Waste Transfer Station, not for the incinerator, not for King Alfred now , will not work for the Marina, it's not working for the road pricing either, ... |
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nightbird
Calaspia
603 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 10:40:04
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Originally posted by quest
This democratic? system it doesn't not work, it didn't work for the Waste Transfer Station, not for the incinerator, not for King Alfred now , will not work for the Marina, it's not working for the road pricing either, ...
Democratic Dictatorship thats what it is.... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5229 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 10:52:27
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| Nah not really nightbird. For decades the majority of people in this country have considered that by voting every few years they have discharged their democratic duty. Trouble is, though that may have discharged their democratic duty, they have not exercised their democratic right and that is to hold those they have elected accountable on a daily basis. Subsequently we have now elected representatives, both on the local and national level who are under the ... seemingly not so far fetched ... idea that once they have convinced us to vote for them, all their energies can be expanded on behalf of either their party, themselves or ... where the two happen to run hand in hand in the same direction ... both. Jo/e Public is of very little interest at this stage, except for throwing them some sop every so often ... preferable at least expense of both effort and monies. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 10:58:41
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Nah not really nightbird. For decades the majority of people in this country have considered that by voting every few years they have discharged their democratic duty. Trouble is, though that may have discharged their democratic duty, they have not exercised their democratic right and that is to hold those they have elected accountable on a daily basis. Subsequently we have now elected representatives, both on the local and national level who are under the ... seemingly not so far fetched ... idea that once they have convinced us to vote for them, all their energies can be expanded on behalf of either their party, themselves or ... where the two happen to run hand in hand in the same direction ... both. Jo/e Public is of very little interest at this stage, except for throwing them some sop every so often ... preferable at least expense of both effort and monies.
The problem with King Alfred is that nobody held those proposing the development accountable or subjected the proposals to any degree of scrutiny. We also had the local 'news' paper just regurgitating whatever nonsense was passed its way. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5229 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 11:01:50
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| There is that too of course Captain. But then, look who we had in the drivers' seat ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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flaming pie
Alagaësía
89 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 14:37:37
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
There is that too of course Captain. But then, look who we had in the drivers' seat ...
Are you talking Anthony Charles or Kenneth Charles?? |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5229 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 14:43:43
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| I'm talking Codfish and Burgess |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 15:44:33
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I'm talking Codfish and Burgess
Do not forget McCarthy
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 15:53:05
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| The judicial review which the residents have in hand will sort it out. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5229 Posts |
Posted - 19/05/2007 : 15:55:28
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Originally posted by Captain Hawkeye
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I'm talking Codfish and Burgess
Do not forget McCarthy
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 20/05/2007 : 18:07:24
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| Is the Sketches of Frank Gehry one of those films to which mothers can take babies for a "Big Scream" showing. Perhaps the objectors should go along and join in the cacophony. |
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
78 Posts |
Posted - 22/05/2007 : 22:16:06
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| There is still a long way to go yet.The minites of the planning meeting have now materialised,i wonder what the floor limit is to the budget?Especially when they start drilling the foundations and discover the rivers beneath.The training on site of construction workers,,the near to 100 conditions,, |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2007 : 08:18:26
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| All these matters - and many others, for that - are more likely to be subsequent upon whether or not a judicial review is deemed to have legal legs. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
 Posted - 23/05/2007 : 09:11:27
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Originally posted by birdy
There is still a long way to go yet.The minites of the planning meeting have now materialised,i wonder what the floor limit is to the budget?Especially when they start drilling the foundations and discover the rivers beneath.The training on site of construction workers,,the near to 100 conditions,,
All 56 pages of those Minutes are here (Word Document)
http://tinyurl.com/39vkt6 |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 25/05/2007 : 09:52:20
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After banging on about architecture and "world-class" this and that, Mr Karis now turns out to be pinning his hopes on a... karaoke bar!
He has put in an application for such an establishment to spread across premises in Middle Street in Brighton.
BH2007/01485 is the planning number for comments.
Perhaps, if he gets permission, Mr Karis will be the first performer, with his very own view on the King Alfred: Elvis's "I Got Stung"
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 30/05/2007 : 20:35:27
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| Latest news from the Planning dept - what's left of it - is that Karis has to put in for changes... could this be the end of the road for it? |
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Control Panel
Discworld
1157 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2007 : 18:20:48
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| Today's Argus - letters page - has caught up with the news here a little while ago that many of the people in the Planning Dept have quit over the King Alfred being taken out of their hands. They have made it clear that the Council will have problems with this scheme and they do not want to be sullied by association with it. |
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Captain Hawkeye
Barsoom
United Kingdom
391 Posts |
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Infinite Poppadum
Discworld
1214 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 16:52:18
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| Does anybody know what happened about those flats proposed opposite the KA? Perhaps not the greatest design, by all accounts, but not at all a bad spot for flats. They do not seem to have excited much in the way of objection, it seems to me. You can usually get a measure of things if word about them wafts this way to Portslade, and I have not heard anybody over here up in arms. |
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birdy
Alagaësía
United Kingdom
78 Posts |
Posted - 07/06/2007 : 15:58:30
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| Bad design flats,unanimous vote.The developer said that the final stages of the design were asked for by the planning office.Also some houses to be built in gardens up by hove park were voted through,by the tories whose election leaflets stated they were against that sort of thing??? |
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K*** A****d
Posted - 26/05/2007 : 09:21:31