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long time no see
Earthsea
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28/10/2007 : 09:14:28
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Gap has withdrawn the item allegedly made using child labour. Gap has also stated through its spokesman the following: quote:
"We were made aware earlier this week that a reporter had found an incident of children working in a factory that was producing for one of our brands, and this is completely unacceptable to us.
(from your link LTNS)here
Lets sit and wait and see before we start accusing people of double standards shall we? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 09:23:52
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They Only Withdrew
it because it is going on TV.
Otherwise those kids would still be making those kids cloths.
No Double Standards.
Why are you sticking up for a Mega Company?
Just Evil Gap
getting kids to make their kids clothes.
Gap should make their clothes here
they charge so much for them. |
Edited by - long time no see on 28/10/2007 09:28:06 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 09:37:31
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
They Only Withdrew
it because it is going on TV.
You assume they only withdrew it because it was going on TV. Maybe that is true, but unless you have proof that that is indeed the case it is merely an opinion. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 09:40:45
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No it was on TV this morning.
They need to stop making clothes in Asia
that is the only possible future for them, now. |
Edited by - long time no see on 28/10/2007 09:43:26 |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 09:48:45
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All companies are guilty of exploiting cheap and child labour and have been for years.
It will still go on even if they are foung out.
If they stop, goodbye cheap clothes and goods from ASDA/Tesco etc.
GAP just have the nerve to charge higher prices and still exploit. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 09:49:46
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Yes Gap have the nerve all right
but will they last. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:01:29
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If it is indeed a case of all companies ... which I doubt very much. It is perfectly possible that a company is not 100% aware at all times what their various suppliers do. Not all societies have the same view on acceptable labour practises that we have. It is perfectly possible that a supplier may act without the full knowledge of the company that has a contract with them.
Now we can talk about whether that is acceptable but I doubt we would get anywhere. Ultimately we, the end consumers with our demand for cheaper goods, are as much part of this exploitation and the drive to seek ever cheaper sources of supply. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:06:04
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Polish and Spanish Factorys
with Adult Workers can match those deals.
The Polish Factory has Turkish workers
to make up the numbers due to many Polish Workers
working here in the UK.
In Time
Gap will have to change
because they are the company that made so many false claims. |
Edited by - long time no see on 28/10/2007 10:08:51 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:32:17
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Gap will have to change
because they are the company that made so many false claims.
In your not so very humble opinion ... |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:35:55
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Using children to make Gap Clothes
talks to every family of how wrong they are.
Nothing Humble. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:49:16
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Using children to make Gap Clothes
talks to every family of how wrong they are.
Nothing Humble.
It is still only opinion that Gap knowingly and wittingly employed children. So far Gap are dealing with it appropriately.
It may even be a reasonable assumption I dare say given where the clothes are being manufactured however unless you have irrefutable proof that they wittingly and knowingly employed children, or caused children to be employed, it is just an opinion.
Your inability to see it as an opinion means that it is anything but humble. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:52:15
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Why in the blue hell are you
standing up
for Evil Gap? |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:53:59
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IMHO GAP or anyone will get cheapest labour they can to maximise profit. The less quetions they ask the better for them when things like this are highlighted.
It will always happen and I will not give anyone any monkeys even if I had any to give!
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We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 10:56:11
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Of course some folks care nothing.
But watch the Gap share price on monday.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 11:27:06
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Why in the blue hell are you
standing up
for Evil Gap?
 
I could say and who in blue blazes are you to parade your not so very humble opinion as fact; to determine who is and who isn't EVIL; to decide where and what posters may post.
But to tell you the truth LTNS, it just ain't worth the effort. So I will continue to pull your posts to bits as and when I see fit and I will continue to point out the flaws in your reasoning as and when I see fit and I will continue to show you up for the supercilious twit that you are as and when I see fit. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 11:35:26
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You ain't pulling nothing
Gap are Guilty 100% FACT. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 11:38:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
twit that you are
Calling another poster a Twit,
shows you for what you are like.
Name calling is about your level.
Sign Of The Times.
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FUBAR
Barsoom
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 11:42:49
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Stop placing your Western society ideals onto other societies. It was common for child labour here in the west not that long ago, and they were treated a lot worse. Is it the child labour that is so offensive or the wages they are paid? You would probably find that without these children working their families will suffer unnecessary hardship due to the loss of their wages, well done with your unswerving simplicity for every subject you address. Try looking a little deeper before you pop off all the time........ |
I came into the world with nothing and still have most of it left.. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 11:43:09
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
twit that you are
Calling another poster a Twit,
shows you for what you are like.
Name calling is about your level.
Sign Of The Times.
Actually LTNS I called you a supercilious twit. You go around these forums making judgements on posters left right and centre but you scream blue murder if anyone passes judgment on you.
You are not only a supercilious twit but a two faced one at that! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 11:45:19
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
You ain't pulling nothing
Gap are Guilty 100% FACT.
Prove it! Otherwise it is just your opinion! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:05:32
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Gap have a Turnover of 3 billions pounds
worldwide.
The Director in the UK is very sorry about this,
of course he is.
The WDR German TV Docu
is a very important film. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:09:01
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Gap have a Turnover of 3 billions pounds
worldwide.
The Director in the UK is very sorry about this,
of course he is.
The WDR German TV Docu
is a very important film.
Whiuch still does not prove your claim that they knowingly and wittingly exploited children nor does it prove that they are EVIL ... another one of your claims! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:14:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Whiuch still does not prove your claim that they knowingly and wittingly exploited children nor does it prove that they are EVIL ... another one of your claims!
Slow down - no rush to post.
I never said they knew about this.
But I am saying 100% Fact
their Claims about their checks are false.
This Important TV Docu
has proved Gap Clothes being made by children.
Roll On Monday.
Gap Shares will have to reflect this crime.
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Edited by - long time no see on 28/10/2007 12:14:43 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:26:50
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
They Only Withdrew
it because it is going on TV.
Otherwise those kids would still be making those kids cloths.
Just Evil Gap
getting kids to make their kids clothes.
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
In Time
Gap will have to change
because they are the company that made so many false claims.
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Using children to make Gap Clothes
talks to every family of how wrong they are.
Nothing Humble.
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
I never said they knew about this.
You really should look deeper, if you are capable of that, before popping off all the time.
You have judged them guilty without so much as a moments pause to reflect. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:40:50
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Bloody Right they are Guilty
they had to remove that girls top from every store.
The BBC bought one well before they knew
so they could include it on their report
with that WDR Docu film.
Guilty of not doing the Checks they
promised customers - they would.
FACT.
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Edited by - long time no see on 28/10/2007 12:41:19 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
 Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:47:47
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
I never said they knew about this.
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Bloody Right they are Guilty
Did you manage to stop long enough to breathe between posting these two contradictory claims 
That's the beauty of your posts LTNS, given enough rope, you inevitably contradict yourself.
I'll leave you have the last word. I know how important that is to you  |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:50:57
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Yes they are Guilty of not
checking the makers of their clothes,
they have failed.
And will get big losses over this crime. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:54:44
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Yes they are Guilty of not
checking the makers of their clothes,
they have failed.
And will get big losses over this crime.
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 14:08:24
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IF the share price drops it will recover.
Shareholders do not give a monkeys either. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 14:37:29
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Times have changed
you can now invest in more Honest Companys.
Sign Of The Times. |
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Gap using child labour