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nightowl
Barsoom
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 Posted - 15/12/2007 : 00:44:07
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How do we get people to improve their hygiene habits when visiting the loo? think we all have witnessed events like this.
Today i witnessed a member of security at Salisbury's visiting the toilet cubicle and coming out without washing his hands before going back into the store, do other members of staff do the same?
We need wash basins operated by foot pedals only and automatic doors to loos to reduce cross contamination to other users.
Bugs of the virulent type are on the increase and we all must take action to reduce the risks.
What are your thoughts on this.......
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/12/2007 : 01:12:45
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Thats a good point
Maybe Fluffy has a answer? |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 15/12/2007 : 22:43:17
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Certainly I do! Sorry folks, but you did ask!
There is NO substitute for hand-washing, and there`s NO excuse for folks not washing their hands after using the loo if the facilities are there - that`s just plain Dirty and Idle.
It`s not nice, but Hospitals are now implementing the `Safer Patient Initiative` (SPI), and it`s just like it sounds. Spot checks are being randomly carried out by un-identified hospital personnel just clocking how many folks actually USE the anti-bacterial gels properly, or wash their hands after patient contact or after other contaminating activities. We aren`t told who is doing the audits, or when, and at the same time we are all being urged to watch ourselves and each other, all staff, visitors, everyone - AND to intervene and remind any non-compliant person to comply (this means that even if someone had to remind you, that might not be the person actually doing the SPI audit. Apparently, since this SPI scheme started they report that `Hand Hygiene Compliance` has greatly improved! Such a pity to have to do this in such a `big brother` way, but good to know that it`s working. So, maybe other areas could try it, especially where food handling/preparation is involved.
Nightowl, there are automatic sensors, foot pedals, knee-levers all over the place now, but there are still TAPS in our own homes and many loos in smaller concerns. The answer is simple enough.
After you`ve washed and rinsed your hands, rinse the tap as well before you turn it off.
More to the point, is how we DRY hands after washing. Hairdryer-type hand driers are shown by research to be risky - if hands are just dabbled in a splash of water, not thoroughly washed, the dryers can blow contamination around beautifully. Also, if folks don`t dry hands thoroughly, the surviving bacteria on our skin just LOVE the warm, damp crinkly folds and multiply rapidly. Paper towels are ok if you use enough of them to dry properly. Old-fashioned roller towels are fine, as long as there`s always a clean fresh bit available, and the roll gets changed when there isn`t.
IN OUR OWN HOMES:
We tend to use, re-use the same towel far too many times, and a damp contaminated towel on a warm towel rail can be a lovely bug-breeding area. I`ve done away with ALL my little towels that I used to have for after-loo, and replaced them with a stack of those little micro-fibre cleaning cloths (Wilkinsons`, TJ Hughes, Pound Shops, cheap to buy in packs of 3 or 5, depending where you shop, and what colours you want. Behind the loo doors I`ve put little hanging shelves (Steel upstairs, wicker from a car-boot sale downstairs) to hold the stack of one-use only cloths, and beneath the shelf of each I`ve hung a little net laundry bag like you use to keep socks etc. together in the washer, hung on a little coat-hanger, looks a bit like the old-fashioned peg-bags, where the cloths go after use to wait for washing. I`ve also completely done away with all `proper` teatowels in the kitchen, replaced them with similar little micro-fibre cloths, One Use Only, then in a hanging wire basket behind the kitchen door.
These cloths DRY really well, hands or pots, and they take so little room in the washer, and then dry so fast on a `peg chandelier`, the laundry side of things is so much quicker and easier. It`s economical, convenient, but best of all, there`s no temptation any more for folks here to re-use any potentially contaminated hand-towel or tea-towel. |
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camelot
Barsoom
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Posted - 16/12/2007 : 03:19:43
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Nah, we all have to develop immunities...:) We are becoming a population of weaklings. From antibacterial hand cleaners to toys with built in disinfectants, we are doing nothing but creating super bugs that we have no natural defense against. Stand up to those bugs like our forefathers. Spit in the face of E coli…laugh at those deadly hospital staph germs. (Just joking here…late shift again.)
P.S But please wash you hands when returning from the loo…and DON”T touch the door handle with your bare hands after washing up. I don’t know how many times I see a person wash vigorously and then grab the door handle that looks as if it’s in the center of a bell curve of filth….
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Ian
Alagaësía
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Posted - 17/12/2007 : 22:34:26
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quote:
Originally posted by camelot
P.S But please wash you hands when returning from the loo…and DON”T touch the door handle with your bare hands after washing up. I don’t know how many times I see a person wash vigorously and then grab the door handle that looks as if it’s in the center of a bell curve of filth….
I always wash mine when leaving the gents in the pub. Or almost always...sometimes the cleaning facilities in some places are just too unpleasant to use. I especially don't like those places where the hand-drying facility consists of a wet towel hanging over a rusty radiator.
How do you then pull open the door if it was last pulled open by someone who didn't wash his hands? My solutions are to wait for someone else to come in, or otherwise wrap the handle in my sleeve (which sleeve I will later rest on the bar when picking up my pint...).
What concerns me more are the puddles of wee under urinals just where you need to put your feet. They are difficult to avoid, and when you walk back into the bar area you will be putting your feet onto the same parts of the floor as people put their bags etc. on
(Oh, and by my calculations, blokes in pubs will have had at least 25,000 times before to perfect their aim. Why can't many get it right after so much practising?) |
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