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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 03/02/2008 : 07:32:56
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7224661.stm
Jack Straw claims to not know anything about this.
But what does this tell Muslims in the UK?
MP's were told they could not be bugged.
Corrupt New Labour will have to blame MI5.
And even worse the Tape would be for
the CIA Americans.
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Edited by - long time no see on 03/02/2008 15:12:35 |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 03/02/2008 : 19:45:34
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Judging by all the bungs, affairs, nepotism etc that is associated with MPs they should all be bugged.
As for visiting an alledged terror suspect, how many other MPs would do the same? |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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nightowl
Barsoom
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 20:25:21
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So what does that tell UK Public Muslims?
Never go to a New Labour Muslim MP.
Sign Of The Times. |
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nightowl
Barsoom
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Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:04:18
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For gods sake get your brain into gear LT, how did this MP no the table leg was hollow with a mike in it?
He was probably told by the security services or do we have another security bleed, no one should be surprised if they rub shoulders with terrorist suspects that they will be watched or even bugged when required.
Terrorists do work in the realms of government in the shadows you no.... |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:14:38
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| I'd wait and see where the leak that the bugging device was there came from before I got too hot under the collar about this one. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:24:15
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quote:
Originally posted by nightowl
For gods sake get your brain into gear LT, how did this MP no the table leg was hollow with a mike in it?
He was probably told by the security services or do we have another security bleed, no one should be surprised if they rub shoulders with terrorist suspects that they will be watched or even bugged when required.
Terrorists do work in the realms of government in the shadows you no....
Do you ever Watch the News.
Get your Brain in gear, yourself.
This MP was Not told he was being taped.
New Labour Blair Promised
no MP's will be recorded.
Nightowl the Fucking CIA should not have the right
to Bug any UK MP.
Of course they used MI5.
Do you not understand what this means?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3295393.ece
The New Labour Team
are working 24/7 to try to get this covered up.
But it is too late now.
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Edited by - long time no see on 03/02/2008 21:37:20 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:37:50
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Do you ever Watch the News.
Get your Brain in gear, yourself.
This MP was Not told he was being taped.
New Labour Blair Promised
no MP's will be recorded.
Nightowl the Fucking CIA should not have the right
to Bug any UK MP.
Of course they used MI5.
Do you not understand what this means?
The New Labour Team
are working 24/7 to try to get this covered up.
But it is too late now.
Will you all just calm down for crying out loud. And no LTNS, the bugging of MPs or rather the non-bugging of MPs has been in place since the Howard years back in 1966 so this one is not down to Blair or Brown or New Labour. So do get your facts straight! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:46:44
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You are Confused Miriam.
Calm Down?
This is Good News
More reason to get those Dumb Ass New Labour Out. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:51:04
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
You are Confused Miriam.
Calm Down?
This is Good News
More reason to get those Dumb Ass New Labour Out.
I am not the one getting het up about the fact that Blair promised not to bug MPs LTNS. I know that it was Howard that did that back in 1966. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 03/02/2008 : 21:55:18
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| I really dont see why they should not be bugged if security reasons indicate they should! |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 22:05:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep
I really dont see why they should not be bugged if security reasons indicate they should!
It is a matter of UK Law.
This Nation is Built on Laws.
Not the Fucking CIA say so. |
Edited by - long time no see on 03/02/2008 22:08:40 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 22:07:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
You are Confused Miriam.
Calm Down?
This is Good News
More reason to get those Dumb Ass New Labour Out.
I am not the one getting het up about the fact that Blair promised not to bug MPs LTNS. I know that it was Howard that did that back in 1966.
Miriam everyone knows it was Wilson 1966.
But on UK News and UK Radio News
they said Blair promised to keep that.
But since you have no News
why should anyone care what you get confused over. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 22:24:22
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Originally posted by long time no see
Miriam everyone knows it was Wilson 1966.
But on UK News and UK Radio News
they said Blair promised to keep that.
But since you have no News
why should anyone care what you get confused over.
Blair has no business promising to uphold. It is his duty as PM to uphold. Even so, this did not happen during Blair's watch LTNS so get yourself another scapegoat.
As for my not getting the News. Do you seriously believe that television is the only way to get the news? Is that the only way you get your news? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 22:26:16
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Radio News as well.
It is just another point
to this case.
Do not get your knickers in a twist. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 03/02/2008 : 22:31:23
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Radio News as well.
It is just another point
to this case.
Do not get your knickers in a twist.
Watch yourself LTNS, this is the second time on this one thread that you have overstepped the mark. If you cannot control yourself maybe you should think about taking a vacation. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 00:56:16
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MP`s are as prone to corruption as anyone else, if not more so. They might be bugged for their own protection, too! Who is daft enough to say they should be promised they will not be bugged?
If they are all above board they shouldn`t find a problem with this. |
Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2008 : 06:17:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Fluffy Sheep
MP`s are as prone to corruption as anyone else, if not more so. They might be bugged for their own protection, too! Who is daft enough to say they should be promised they will not be bugged?
If they are all above board they shouldn`t find a problem with this.
It is a Pledge
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3295393.ece
What does it tell
UK Public Muslims?
Do not go to your New Labour Muslim MP.
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Edited by - long time no see on 04/02/2008 08:14:58 |
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 07:45:59
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It's not law, LTNS. The times article you linked to refers to it as an 'edict' . The BBC news site says this:
'However, a code known as the Wilson Doctrine forbids the covert recording of conversations between MPs and their constituents.'
From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7225556.stm
The wikipedia entry calls it a 'pledge' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_Doctrine)
It is, in effect, a promise made by Harold Wilson back in '66, that such conversations would not be bugged. It never has been a law.
No law has been broken. If this turns out to be true, no-one will be prosecuted.
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No Expert
Barsoom
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Posted - 04/02/2008 : 09:07:27
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 19:11:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
I'd wait and see where the leak that the bugging device was there came from before I got too hot under the collar about this one.
Was not long
and Now Corrupt New Labour have leaked the
Coppers name (who is no longer working for the police)
he fears his safety (ref:Live TV News Interview he did)
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1304039,00.html
And Jack straw said he knew nothing about this.
New Labour are Corrupt as Hell.
FACT
FACT
FACT. |
Edited by - long time no see on 05/02/2008 19:30:19 |
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nightowl
Barsoom
261 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 19:36:37
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Being incontinent sorry incompetent doesn't make you corrupt LT.......... |
Edited by - nightowl on 05/02/2008 19:38:10 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 19:49:34
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Incompetent New Labour
will get Kicked out. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 19:51:08
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| Was the bug placed there specifically to listen in on the conversation this MP was having with his constituent or was it a case of all the conversations this 'terror suspect' was having with outside visitors were being bugged and one of them just happened to be his MP? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 19:55:51
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What Matters Miriam
is the Fact the Muslim MP knew nothing about this.
And the way they permitted that Former Officers name to be leaked
making him angry.
He said on the News he did not want to tape the MP
but was told to follow orders (CIA Fucking Orders)
And Brown knew all along
but first said he did not?
He was being bugged for the Americans
and that matters as well. |
Edited by - long time no see on 05/02/2008 20:08:18 |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/02/2008 : 20:26:03
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Lt it does not matter that an mp was bugged the media are making a mockery out of this adding fuel to disgruntled Muslims, It is not as if a bug was placed specifically to record the Mp it was there to record a terrorist suspect SO EVERYONE CALM DOWN |
keep on smiling |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2008 : 20:46:10
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Suspect
that the Americans want.
So it matters that they Ordered it.
Everyone is Calm.
And in the Future
Every Muslim will be bugged.
So you should be well happy Del.
We ain't Muslims
so Yippe Ya Ha. |
Edited by - long time no see on 06/02/2008 11:31:24 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2008 : 11:38:47
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Suspect
that the Americans want.
So it matters that they Ordered it.
Everyone is Calm.
And in the Future
Every Muslim will be bugged.
So you should be well happy Del.
We ain't Muslims
so Yippe Ya Ha.
Just as a matter of interest LTNS, do you think that there should be international cooperation on crime? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
Edited by - Miriam Binder on 06/02/2008 12:05:44 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2008 : 11:40:50
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There has to be
but the Americans have gone wrong
and they are not like they were. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2008 : 11:46:09
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
but the Americans have gone wrong
and they are not like they were.
We haven't exactly been squeaky clean either. We have made huge errors of judgement and strayed from the path as well.quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
There has to be
There has to be ... that's all really. Do you think that it may be possible for someone who is involved in criminal activities in one part to know others who are involved in similar activities elsewhere?
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"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 06:44:22
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Personally I think bugging should be controlled by only judges not politically motivated,Also only people with something to hide fear them;I have nothing to hide so as far as I am concerned let the buggers bug |
keep on smiling |
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