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Miriam Binder
Earthsea


United Kingdom
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Posted - 14/02/2008 :  11:54:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Home alone, in a 30-apartment complex

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin

moon23
Calaspia



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Posted - 14/02/2008 :  12:32:04  Show Profile  Visit moon23's Homepage  Reply with Quote
mmm... so whilst some people struggle to get onto the property ladder and new towns are being built over geenbelt to accomadate the housing shortage, this aparment sits mostly empty.

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fartin1976
Alagaësía



United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/02/2008 :  09:16:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Plus the second homeowners get a discount on their council tax.
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Anubis
Barsoom



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Posted - 15/02/2008 :  22:57:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by fartin1976

Plus the second homeowners get a discount on their council tax.



This is true, Fartin ... but the discount is only about 10% off, and as they obviously do not use the Council services anywhere near the proportion they ARE still charged, I'm not sure why you are apparently SO angry about it.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/02/2008 :  00:40:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you not think there is something almost indecent, if not positively obscene, about a 30-apartment complex that stands largely empty for most of the time Anubis?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Anubis
Barsoom



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Posted - 16/02/2008 :  08:44:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder

Do you not think there is something almost indecent, if not positively obscene, about a 30-apartment complex that stands largely empty for most of the time Anubis?



If in that town there are homeless people sleeping on the streets, then "yes", Miriam, of course it would be obscene. But I doubt if there be a single such person, there. There are thousands of empty homes all over the country, in places where there is no demand for housing -- I remember, quite recently, in a depleted mining village; there was a whole street for sale, every house offered at £1, but not a single buyer! Because there was an uninhabited street doesn't make it "obscene" in an abstract sense, surely?
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/02/2008 :  09:09:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know ... it is in a town where there is no homelessness ... maybe. I certainly don't know and I don't think it really is the point as such. The point, as you quite nicely make in your post, is in fact the depleted mining village. The over-population of some parts of a country and the mass migration from others.
That people are moving to where the work is - and in many cases isn't. And that sustainable living is not possible were people are. Which in essence brings about the premium put on housing in some parts and the surplus in others.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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fartin1976
Alagaësía



United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/02/2008 :  11:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Anubis

quote:
Originally posted by fartin1976

Plus the second homeowners get a discount on their council tax.



This is true, Fartin ... but the discount is only about 10% off, and as they obviously do not use the Council services anywhere near the proportion they ARE still charged, I'm not sure why you are apparently SO angry about it.



Even if they’re not there the council still grits the roads, the bin men will still check if the bins need emptying, the street lights will be on and the libraries will be open. Them owning a second home in an area will not reduce the number of unemployed, the teenage mums on benefits so why should they get a discount? I cannot see how an area full of second homes reduces a councils costs, so they must recover the cost by having a large increases in council tax penalising the people who live there 24/7.
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