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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10/05/2008 : 08:31:45
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One Big problem with Burma
is Bush has said he wants the leader Changed.
How can Burma Trust America?
And today after 15 years to set up they are having
their Referendum.
The Army Controls the TV stations
so they control all images.
So they will not allow other nations in
and will take full control of any Aid that
is given to them.
Corpses litter the landscape
as the cyclone survivors
are forced to fight for life
alongside a tide of mortality .
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/burmamyanmar/1942422/Myanmar-cyclone-UN-launches-appeal-as-Burma-refuses-aid.html
Sign Of The Times.
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/05/2008 : 18:12:48
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| Page 27 of the telegraph yesterday about the drunken Irish parents,I notice you did not write about that!!FACT the local dignatory stated thathe was "disgusted at the media condemnation of the couple" but again lt you only judge and condemn |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 18:26:53
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quote:
Originally posted by thedelboy
Page 27 of the telegraph yesterday about the drunken Irish parents,I notice you did not write about that!!FACT the local dignatory stated thathe was "disgusted at the media condemnation of the couple" but again lt you only judge and condemn
Meanwhile In Burma
Aid is stuck at the Airport under the Armys Slow Control. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 18:35:18
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by thedelboy
Page 27 of the telegraph yesterday about the drunken Irish parents,I notice you did not write about that!!FACT the local dignatory stated thathe was "disgusted at the media condemnation of the couple" but again lt you only judge and condemn
Meanwhile In Burma
Aid is stuck at the Airport under the Armys Slow Control.
What's the matter LTNS? Can't admit you are wrong? |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 18:40:12
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
What's the matter LTNS? Can't admit you are wrong?
There is Nothing Wrong with This Burma Thread.
Any Other Topic can be posted on the correct thread
that would make Common Sense. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 22:13:05
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Originally posted by long time no see
There is Nothing Wrong with This Burma Thread.
Any Other Topic can be posted on the correct thread
that would make Common Sense.
You were quick enough to denounce the parents ... Not so quick to retract though ... Anyway there already is a perfectly adequate Burma thread. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 22:16:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Anyway there already is a perfectly adequate Burma thread.
Whatever you say
dear.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5851 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 22:20:24
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
quote:
Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Anyway there already is a perfectly adequate Burma thread.
Whatever you say
dear.
Thank you sweetiepie |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2008 : 23:40:30
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An unidentified man votes in Burma's
controversial referendum
on a new military-drafted constitution
at a polling station at Hlaeuk township
near Rangoon. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
1028 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 10:40:39
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What has the humanitarian disaster in Burma got to do with Bush?
Zilch! Nada! Bupkiss! Rien!
But in the mind of the touched one
It is everything
Meanwhile, the junta does nothing and the people suffer
LTNS thinks of ever-more tenuous ways
To link this to EVIL _________________ (Fill in the gap with the political pinata of your choice) |
 Valhalla, I am coming! |
Edited by - Borninhove on 11/05/2008 10:41:18 |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 10:45:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Borninhove
What has the humanitarian disaster in Burma got to do with Bush?
Of course Nothing
But because Bush has said he wants that Leader Changed
(Evil Bush has No Right to say that)
the country keeps everyone out. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
1028 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 11:01:30
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
(Evil Bush has No Right to say that)
No right?? No right???
There is such a thing as freedom of speech.
Who decides if people have a right to say things.
Not YOU
FACT |
Valhalla, I am coming! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 11:02:35
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Bush is Not the World Police
look at the Mess he has made in Iraq.
He is wrong to say such things
his own nation is big enough for the Out Going Bush. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
1028 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 11:06:49
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Ah, now wrong is a different thing from "he has no right to"
"he is wrong to" just gives the LTNS opinion which we can take or leave as we see fit.
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Valhalla, I am coming! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 11:15:47
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You can take it any way you wish.
Burma
may do better taking some aid from China.
Since the Evil Junta is not in a hurry
any way in is needed.
"China faces mounting
appeals to encourage Burma
to allow access to foreign
aid workers but is giving
no sign it will use its
influence over its ally,
insisting instead that
the world respect
the military junta's sovereignty."
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Tombstone Blues
Earthsea
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Posted - 11/05/2008 : 18:01:52
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
(Evil Bush has No Right to say that)
Quite so.
And the General Secretary of the United Nations has no right to say "Wibble, wibble, wibble . . . . . .ping! . . . .splodcobbler, scringewallop and ploot!"
Let's keep this in perspective, folks. |
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camelot
Barsoom
USA
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Posted - 12/05/2008 : 00:39:11
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I suspect the resistance to aid (especially aid workers) has more to do with the military Junta’s main business rather than the worry of who gets the credit for blankets and medicines. Seems the main economic activities of Burma’s governing elite are in the opium and sex slave export markets. Add to this a sizable chunk of the mineral and forestry industries output being smuggled out to China “off the books” and you have a very good reason for the Junta to protect its “trade processes” from outsiders; and perhaps a very good reason for China to back them….
“[Burma] remains world's second largest producer of illicit opium with an estimated production in 2005 of 380 metric tons, up 13% from 2004 and cultivation in 2005 was 40,000 hectares, a 10% increase from 2004; the decline in opium production in the United Wa State Army's areas of greatest control was more than offset by increases in south and east Shan state; lack of government will to take on major narcotrafficking groups and lack of serious commitment against money laundering continues to hinder the overall antidrug effort; major source of methamphetamine and heroin for regional consumption; currently under Financial Action Task Force countermeasures due to continued failure to address its inadequate money-laundering controls (2005)”
“Burma is a source country for men, women, and children trafficked to East and Southeast Asia for sexual exploitation, domestic service, and forced commercial labor; a significant number of victims are economic migrants who wind up in forced or bonded labor and forced prostitution; to a lesser extent, Burma is a country of transit and destination for women trafficked from China for sexual exploitation; internal trafficking of persons occurs primarily for labor in industrial zones and agricultural estates; internal trafficking of women and girls for sexual exploitation occurs from villages to urban centers and other areas; the military junta's economic mismanagement, human rights abuses, and policy of using forced labor are driving factors behind Burma's large trafficking problem”
From CIA World Fact book (echoes many other sources) at
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bm.html#Govt |
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Borninhove
Discworld
1028 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2008 : 06:02:56
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TB:
"splodcobbler, scringewallop and ploot" - these are the words I must teach my students today. |
Valhalla, I am coming! |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2008 : 06:46:27
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quote:
Originally posted by camelot
I suspect the resistance to aid (especially aid workers) has more to do with the military Junta’s main business rather than the worry of who gets the credit for blankets and medicines. Seems the main economic activities of Burma’s governing elite are in the opium and sex slave export markets. Add to this a sizable chunk of the mineral and forestry industries output being smuggled out to China “off the books” and you have a very good reason for the Junta to protect its “trade processes” from outsiders; and perhaps a very good reason for China to back them….
"Off The Books"
yes it is a nation in a bad way
like China once was.
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