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long time no see
Earthsea


United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/08/2007 :  19:24:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Working on a Bridge while only two lanes were going with bumper
to bumper could only happen in America.
Over 30 are still not accounted for.

Of course they had know idea the stress it was under
but Ch4 News just showed how UK bridges are closed while work
goes on,
in general.





http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2140291,00.html



Sign Of The Times.




Edited by - long time no see on 02/08/2007 19:31:40

nightbird
Calaspia



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Posted - 02/08/2007 :  20:03:42  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
This could happen anywhere in the world, we will have to wait and see what they find after an enquiry, poor design, sub-standard materials ?


Edited by - nightbird on 02/08/2007 20:04:29
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2007 :  20:10:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not in the UK
when we work like that on Bridges
it is closed off.
Ch4 News stated that.

It was built in 1967
but reports 3 years back said it was in trouble.

In America loads of roads are in a bad way.
They have not all changed to smaller cars
and they use roads far more.

In China I would think it could happen
but not the same way in the UK.

Edited by - long time no see on 02/08/2007 20:13:44
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2007 :  20:28:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Latest News
1990 the bridge was Classified as Structurally Deficient.

Live Sky News.

Nightbird
you are so wrong , yet again.
Only America
typical bad standards.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1278347,00.html

Edited by - long time no see on 02/08/2007 21:37:17
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camelot
Barsoom



USA
336 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2007 :  00:45:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, you are correct LT. 400 to 800 Billion US$ for Iraq and the infrastructure of the USA is falling apart.

One caution on blaming the construction going on at the time being a cause...the repair crews were resurfacing the road and had no involvement with the actual support structure at all. So I suspect the cause will be found elsewhere.


EDIT (I do not think you are correct about Nightbird's post LT, it could happen anywhere in the world....We posted at same time and I was agreeing with you that much of the aging US infrastructure is being ignored by the cash strapped local, state and fed government.)

As for "deficient" see the link...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070803/ap_on_re_us/bridge_safety

Edited by - camelot on 03/08/2007 04:49:21
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/08/2007 :  07:43:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Camelot
in general the UK has far better Standards.
That is why I say nighbird is very wrong.

And America should come well before Iraq.


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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/08/2007 :  08:12:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Camelot
in general the UK has far better Standards.
That is why I say nighbird is very wrong.

And America should come well before Iraq.




LTNS please show some examples of these far better standards.

I doubt very much that you can as I feel that your statement is one made by bias and prejudice rather then FACT

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/08/2007 :  08:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Miriam
it was on Ch4 News
how UK standards are well above America.
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nightbird
Calaspia



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Posted - 03/08/2007 :  08:40:05  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Camelot
in general the UK has far better Standards.
That is why I say nighbird is very wrong.

And America should come well before Iraq.






http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1180659.stm

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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/08/2007 :  08:49:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes Nightbird a Foot bridge.

That USA one was bumper to bumper slow
and workers doing the surface on the other side.
That is so much Stress it just broke in seconds.
Only in America or China.

Edited by - long time no see on 03/08/2007 08:50:51
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2007 :  10:03:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by long time no see

Miriam
it was on Ch4 News
how UK standards are well above America.

Can you back it up LTNS?

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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The Duke of Uranus
Barsoom



294 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2007 :  10:25:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Can you back it up LTNS?


I think it was an article on their personal hygiene standards. I mean, thanks to LT, we all know that Americans stink.
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2007 :  10:35:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Duke of Uranus

I think it was an article on their personal hygiene standards. I mean, thanks to LT, we all know that Americans stink.


"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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camelot
Barsoom



USA
336 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2007 :  22:20:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's an example that backs LTNS...a bridge judged deficient by English standards purchased and being put to use in the USA...They just don't build them like they used to

http://www.roadtripamerica.com/places/havasu.htm
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long time no see
Earthsea



United Kingdom
6771 Posts

Posted - 03/08/2007 :  22:26:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes that is a good piece of History.
Cheers Camelot.
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camelot
Barsoom



USA
336 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2007 :  00:10:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well some good news. Less people have died than the original estimates. Not such good news for the eight and their families though...

"Divers still searched through the swirling, muddy currents for cars and bodies. However, the death toll remained at five from Wednesday's collapse and authorities cast doubt on an earlier estimate that as many as 30 people were missing. They even said it could be as few as eight."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070803/ap_on_re_us/bridge_collapse
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nightbird
Calaspia



603 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2007 :  13:23:37  Show Profile  Send nightbird an AOL message  Reply with Quote
http://www.conphoto.net/collapse.html

Good pictures here
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5821 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2007 :  13:55:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One for LTNS ...

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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