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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5851 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2007 :  09:15:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by long time no see

I have done.

If you had read it properly you would have seen that she does not advocate putting them in the armed forces.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Daveb
Earthsea



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Posted - 26/08/2007 :  09:16:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nobody would want to send troops to be killed.

I am very saddend by the fact that good young people are being killed far from home while this useless bunch of lowlife get more benefits than they deserve.

If they catch the murderer of the young lad, who may only be about 15, will it mirror the Lawrence case and they will be free in 11 years?

The punishment (detterent) is not good enough.


We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you!
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea



United Kingdom
5851 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2007 :  09:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Though I agree that the punishment that we seem to be doling out does not act as a sufficient deterrent I don't think that an effective deterrent alone is the answer.

We have a whole sector of society that does not appear to engage with the rest of us, except for through the end of a barrel or the blade of a knife. That needs to be addressed. We also have to look at why we have this alienation in our midst and try and prevent it occurring in the future.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



1186 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2007 :  23:58:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
O Dear!
LT, I don`t want our young people (even our ASBO thugs) killed by Americans. I don`t want our well-trained professional soldiers killed by Americans, I don`t want Iraqi`s killed by Americans.

BUT, you (deliberately..?) mis-read my post.
I wouldn`t wish to make matters even worse in a delicate area by sending these bozo`s abroad - not even anywhere abroad. I`m saying, give them serious labouring tasks right here where things need doing, and with military discipline and supervision. This might eventually give some of these youngsters some sense of acheivement and pride.

Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski!
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Monty the bolshevik
Alagaësía



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Posted - 28/08/2007 :  19:55:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Police sharp shooters should take out these gangsters. According to Merseyside Police there are 70s gangsters (in two gants) on that estate. They should take them out - in self-defence because obviously they'd shoot if they had the chance. Blast their ugly stupid heads off them.
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Fluffy Sheep
Discworld



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Posted - 28/08/2007 :  22:14:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello Monty. Do you honestly think that our police really WANT to take that route? They feel it badly enough when, rarely, they do take a life. If your suggestion did get seriously taken up, all it would achieve is real all-out chaos - after initially culling a few young thugs, they`d become martyrs and the problems would escalate.

Row faster, slaves! Caesar wants to waterski!
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