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Martha Gunn
Barsoom

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Posted - 15/07/2008 : 11:48:38
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Another delay announced today. Building now set to start 'in a matter of weeks'. June was touted (which itself was late) so now september is mooted...
Another one bites the dust? King Alfred, Brighton Centre, Black Rock - now the Marina is said to be running into trouble. Can our planners deliver anything?
Brighton is a place for dreamers who like to live life through rose tinted spectacles. sadly, the real world (housing market, steel prices etc) have no place for this. The Council should start to deliver, sensible, workable improvements instead of thinking that Brighton exists in a bubble of its own. It doesn't and while 'unfashionable' other towns get on with it, Brighton ends up looking stupid - talking the talk but failing miserably to walk the walk. |
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Daveb
Earthsea

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Posted - 15/07/2008 : 20:28:56
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It is so sad. Another one that will never happen. Still never mind. Let us have a few all expenses paid meetings. Launch an enquiry into what went wrong. Commission a few reports from our mates, opps sorry experts. Have a few more meetings. Blame the previous council.
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We're all doomed! Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 15/07/2008 : 20:35:40
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| It would be bloomin' hilarious if it wasn't so damned sad! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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B.O.B.
Alagaësía

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Posted - 16/07/2008 : 08:30:52
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I would think that the Brighton Eye is the last thing that this town(city)needs. What is the point of it. Typical of Brighton Councillors though to choose something like that to dominate a prime spot on the seafront. Only useable if you pay for it and lasts about 8 minutes. The monorail is another non starter. Would ruin the seafront. Maybe Nick Lomax could design an eco friendly sports centre for the King Alfred Site or what about the Richard Rogers design. What about using seawater in the pools. They used to. Will the agreement with Karis become nul and void if Gehry has pulled out and this scheme doesn't get built or have Karis now got hold of the site for the remainder of the lease? What have the Councillors signed away?
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/07/2008 : 09:05:57
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| It isn't just the 'Eye' B.O.B. ... it is the whole shower called planning! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Furzewick
Barsoom

United Kingdom
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Posted - 16/07/2008 : 10:29:26
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quote: Originally posted by B.O.B.
I would think that the Brighton Eye is the last thing that this town(city)needs. What is the point of it. Typical of Brighton Councillors though to choose something like that to dominate a prime spot on the seafront. Only useable if you pay for it and lasts about 8 minutes. The monorail is another non starter. Would ruin the seafront. Maybe Nick Lomax could design an eco friendly sports centre for the King Alfred Site or what about the Richard Rogers design. What about using seawater in the pools. They used to. Will the agreement with Karis become nul and void if Gehry has pulled out and this scheme doesn't get built or have Karis now got hold of the site for the remainder of the lease? What have the Councillors signed away?
Agree with much said here. Local architects could make a big contribution to 'major projects'. Never understood how the Brighton Eye could get as far as it did. Great idea while it stayed on the back of an envelope. |
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No Expert
Barsoom

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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 02:25:32
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http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/2396239.Further_delays_for_the_i360/
I made a comment about this (Leonard Lemsip) on that article: "I don't think it'll ever be built. And even if it is, it will flop. When you go up in the london eye you see all the famous london landmarks. What's there to see from the i360? Not a lot."
One of the replies: "I totally understand, there is only the iconic coastal landscape and the visual beauty of the South Downs to admire."
I didn't bother replying (on the Argus pfff, what's the point).
But are these people mad? From the eye you'll see one way: The sea. And the other way: A fairly standard town (apart from the pavillion) and some green fields in the distance.
That's it! So in my opinion, there's next to nothing to see (esp when compared to the london eye).
Am I wrong? |
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fartin1976
Alagaësía

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 10:13:12
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quote: Originally posted by No Expert
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/generalnews/2396239.Further_delays_for_the_i360/
I made a comment about this (Leonard Lemsip) on that article: "I don't think it'll ever be built. And even if it is, it will flop. When you go up in the london eye you see all the famous london landmarks. What's there to see from the i360? Not a lot."
One of the replies: "I totally understand, there is only the iconic coastal landscape and the visual beauty of the South Downs to admire."
I didn't bother replying (on the Argus pfff, what's the point).
But are these people mad? From the eye you'll see one way: The sea. And the other way: A fairly standard town (apart from the pavillion) and some green fields in the distance.
That's it! So in my opinion, there's next to nothing to see (esp when compared to the london eye).
Am I wrong?
you could say the same about Portsmouth (AKA shithole) but there are hundreds of people queued to get up the tower there each day |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 10:24:17
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The thing is ... wasn't the Brighton 'Donut-on-a-Stick' a private endeavour?
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fartin1976
Alagaësía

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 12:18:45
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quote: Originally posted by Miriam Binder
The thing is ... wasn't the Brighton 'Donut-on-a-Stick' a private endeavour?
Yep. The Portsmouth Tower was funded by the taxpayer....they had a big problem with the funding what I remember. Also, the build quality is questionable as they were finding voids in the concrete. |
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Daveb
Earthsea

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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 12:37:27
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I like a sea view Jimmy. Whether I would go 300ft up in the air for one I am not sure. The downs also look good.
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Furzewick
Barsoom

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 16:40:47
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea

United Kingdom
6047 Posts |
Posted - 17/07/2008 : 22:20:15
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| Well, it isn't for locals really is it. More a thing for the tourist and day tripper. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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thedelboy
Discworld

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/07/2008 : 22:55:12
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Perhaps as the Brighton and Hove taxpayers will be funding it they will have 2/3 days a year free for locals after all the Pavilion is free one day a year for residents |
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nightowl
Barsoom

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Posted - 18/07/2008 : 11:18:32
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With the credit squeeze I doubt any large capital building project will ever get started in Brighton for many years to come..... |
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Furzewick
Barsoom

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/07/2008 : 11:45:29
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quote: Originally posted by thedelboy
Perhaps as the Brighton and Hove taxpayers will be funding it they will have 2/3 days a year free for locals after all the Pavilion is free one day a year for residents
Funded by the Council ? I thought it was King Alfred that they were subsidising ?? |
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B.O.B.
Alagaësía

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Posted - 24/07/2008 : 07:30:29
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| article in the Times Knowledge at the weekend how 'the pier is making a triumphant comeback at adventurous resorts'. No mention of Brighton(palace pier) although it does show a picture of the Helter Skelter on the Cover, but the defunct West Pier is mentioned and the suspicious way burned down. Norman Foster is even designing an eco friendly one in Italy. A new West Pier instead of the i360 would be marvelous. Anyone interested in paying for it and maintaining it. |
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Control Panel
Discworld

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Daveb
Earthsea

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Posted - 28/07/2008 : 17:31:14
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Impossible. The new owners had supposedly spent money on refurbishment!
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Furzewick
Barsoom

United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/07/2008 : 17:49:56
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quote: Originally posted by Control Panel
Poor old Weston-super-Mare, it's gone the same way as the West Pier.
Are the same people behind this calamity?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jul/28/firefighters
That has not stopped Radio 4 interviewing a West Pier spokeswoman. The same spokeswoman was interviewed by the BBC in 1998 and delighted at the news of money for restoration then. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/69460.stm
There was even talk of a millennium eve party to see in 2000.
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