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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:30:21
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Galloway is a a self serving megalomaniac!
So is Blair. |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:32:28
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| are we all not self serving? as I have said I do not agree with a lot of what he says but right from the beggining he has been outspoken and very much in the limelight,when he agreed with Labours policies he was their wunderkind but as soon as he disagreed he was ostracised; he was even framed by the government (alledgedly)of accepting bribes from Hussain(subsequently found not guilty) |
keep on smiling |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:35:41
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Yes he makes the Panel on TV come alive.
His Radio show is doing well. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 12:36:33
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Originally posted by thedelboy
are we all not self serving? as I have said I do not agree with a lot of what he says but right from the beggining he has been outspoken and very much in the limelight,when he agreed with Labours policies he was their wunderkind but as soon as he disagreed he was ostracised; he was even framed by the government (alledgedly)of accepting bribes from Hussain(subsequently found not guilty)
Some of us more so then others. He serves a purpose in that his antics draw attention away from the serious stuff that people should be concentrating on. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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thedelboy
Discworld
United Kingdom
1401 Posts |
Posted - 28/10/2007 : 21:02:36
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| agreed but to an extent |
keep on smiling |
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Anubis
Barsoom
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Posted - 29/10/2007 : 08:55:15
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
Galloway is a a self serving megalomaniac!
It's a pity Miriam that you so often reduce what can be serious and open discussions to the level of personal insults -- not only vis-a-vis other posters, but now to George G. Whether he is 'mentally ill' suffering from 'delusions of power' is not really relevant to the very important matters raised by George, most recently during the David A TV debate.
(Obviously to his friends and family and those who know him, your use of the term is perceived as so 'out of place' they must wonder if they should mail you a copy of the OED!?)
Supporters of today's political hierarchy, busy entertaining the Saudi chieftain (compared to whom the late Saddam represented the pinnacle of free speech and democracy!) obviously use their power, control and manipulation of the media to misrepresent those who SERIOUSLY threaten to expose their criminal acts ... especially now, as they prepare to extend their middle eastern atrocious wars to Iran... Even if your diagnosis of pathology were correct it would be as relevant as Beethoven's declared 'preference for trees rather than people' if we were assessing his ninth symphony.
If you have critical comments about things George said on the programme, please share them with us. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29/10/2007 : 09:13:42
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| I think I have made my position regarding Gorgeous George sufficiently clear. The man is, as BiH quite rightly puts it, a "deluded egomaniac who appeals to the more tinfoilhat-wearing segment of the community" ... I assume the man has a degree of intelligence and it is the assumption of intelligence that leads me to see him as a megalomaniac. Then again, if he is acting the way he is because he sincerely believes that is the way forward then I might have to rethink the assumption of intelligence. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 29/10/2007 : 09:16:17
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anubisquote:
the Saudi chieftain (compared to whom the late Saddam represented the pinnacle of free speech and democracy!)
You obviously haven't spoken to many Iraqis. This is a comment of mind-beggaring ignorance. The sort of thing George might come out with, in fact. |
 Valhalla, I am coming! |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2007 : 09:36:43
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Originally posted by Borninhove
You obviously haven't spoken to many Iraqis. This is a comment of mind-beggaring ignorance. The sort of thing George might come out with, in fact.
Not to say ethno-centric arrogance! |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2007 : 12:15:34
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Yes Anubis
Great points.
He is best on a Live Debate. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
2211 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2007 : 21:03:28
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Perhaps Anubis being such a close associate of George can list all of his achievements?
Tell us why he is deserting his electorate in Tower Hamletts and what he actulaly did for them?
Or maybe the next time you run into him, while looking at the market instead of where you are going make sure you are on your high horse and leave a few hoof prints. |
We're all doomed!
Head for the hills before they start heading for you! |
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camelot
Barsoom
USA
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 02:28:29
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| I do not know how his constituents feel about him ....But it was really a bright spot in a bleak time for me when he handed my US Congress their *ss on his visit here. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 05:25:33
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Yes, that was entertaining, as George usually is, but interestingly it was Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democrat, who punctured the pompous poseur's balloon during that hearing.
Some George quotes:
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"If you are asking did I support the Soviet Union, yes I did. Yes, I did support the Soviet Union, and I think the disappearance of the Soviet Union is the biggest catastrophe of my life."
"I have never seen a barrel of oil, owned one, bought one, sold one - and neither has anyone on my behalf."
"As for Gordon Brown - I've described him and Blair as two cheeks of the same arse."
"Some believe that those aeroplanes on September 11 came out of a clear blue sky. I believe they came out of a swamp of hatred created by us."
"Bush, and Blair, and the prime minister of Japan, and Berlusconi, these people are criminals, and they are responsible for mass murder in the world, for the war, and for the occupation, through their support for Israel, and through their support for a globalized capitalist economic system, which is the biggest killer the world has ever known. It has killed far more people than Adolf Hitler. It has killed far more people than George Bush. The economic system which these people support, which leaves most of the people in the world hungry, and without clean water to drink. So we're going to put them on trial, the leaders."
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:40:35
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Yes George has much to say
but best Live.
And not re-edited by his Hate club. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:51:28
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Originally posted by long time no see
Yes George has much to say
but best Live.
And not re-edited by his Hate club.
Good job there aren't any members of his 'hate-club' on these forums then isn't it  |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 13:36:12
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Did I mention that IMHO I do not like the opinions of George.
If that means in the opinion of others I hate him then that is their opinion. If they think that their opinion is better than mine then that is also fine as long as I can disagree with their opinion.
Opinions can be formed by meeting people, reading books & newspapers, watching TV news & debate etc. The then formed opinion will always differ from person to person depending on if they have other opinions on the subject in question.
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Denise
Barsoom
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 22:36:55
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Originally posted by Miriam Binder
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Originally posted by long time no see
Yes George has much to say
but best Live.
And not re-edited by his Hate club.
Good job there aren't any members of his 'hate-club' on these forums then isn't it
I met George a while ago (getting about a bit just lately, Miriam!). As a politician he was no less brusque than you'd expect, but he does have a way of charming people.
It would be nice to like him, but I found he was far too ready to gloss over Muslim faults and rather too eager to highlight those of others. It's the same blinkered vision that has always hobbled the left.
As you might be aware, George is fighting off the efforts of the SWP to take over Respect, and a couple of weeks ago attended a meeting of Respect's Tower Hamlets branch (its biggest) which he took over, quite unconstitutionally. His motives may have been good - to stop Respect from being hi-jacked by a small group of plotters - but one has to question the judgement of a man who stormed in like a bull in a china shop, regardless of the legal consequences. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
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Posted - 31/10/2007 : 04:08:43
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| Yes, the cracks in the green/red alliance are showing. Although they share a hatred of American free-market capitalism and culture, that is not really enough to keep people of such disparate views together. I wonder if the Respect manifesto will now jetison such SWP ideas the right to choose one's religion or lack thereof, respect for people regardless of their sexual orientation and equal rights for women. Not very Halal, any of them. |
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Daveb
Earthsea
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Posted - 31/10/2007 : 06:48:56
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In which case Respect will have to be renamed Expect.
We EXPECT you to follow our rules. |
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Borninhove
Discworld
1028 Posts |
Posted - 31/10/2007 : 11:04:15
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And if you don't we'll send round Rage Boy and Mrs. Galloway:
RESPECT!!! I DEMAND RESPECT!!!!!!
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George Galloway on Question Time