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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 30/10/2007 : 06:36:20
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Whilst working in community development and regeneration I came across the term 'additionality'. The term indicated the exclusion zone of certain types of funding to a local area. Funding that was designated "additionality" for instance was not meant to go towards paying for 'statutory' provision - such as (statutory) education, local policing or the maintenance of public highways.
As in for instance the provision of the wages for a local police sergeant - as was the case here in East Brighton for a period. Or as for providing the funding for traffic control measures - which is something the local Council here in Brighton argued for. Or the provision of 'security' fencing - which is something a (now defunct) local school requested. It was a fine line but to illustrate; the provision of an after-school club was acceptable but the provision of class-room assistants was not.
It seems now that 'additionality' has moved on from its humble origins. It no longer merely refers to the provision of public services above and beyond the statutory. It now means what we will pay statutory authorities above and beyond what we already pay for the provision of statutory services. quote:
Councils in England are to be given the power to introduce pilot schemes to charge households according to the amount of rubbish they throw away.
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I accept that as individuals we do have a responsibility to ensure that we reduce the amount of discarded waste, through recycling/re-using, composting et cetera. My motives being primarily to minimise the growth in landfills, reducing the need for incineration and ensuring, in so far as possible, that forestation is maintained.
It seems that The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), run primarily by non-elected civil servants is all for the idea of charging individual households for discarded household goods. Thankfully our elected representatives, including the PM G. Brown, are less enthusiastic.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:10:43
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Yes New Labour have had a U -Turn on this,
due to public viewpoints.
And New Labour not getting votes. |
Edited by - long time no see on 30/10/2007 07:12:36 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:15:17
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Yes New Labour have had a U -Turn on this,
due to public viewpoints.
Is there a doctor in the house? I think LTNS may be in need of some trauma management. In one single solitary post he has let slip that New Labour have listened to the public that elected them. |
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:17:17
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They were due to have a Election
we are now watching Corrupt Brown
change everything again.
New Labour are a Warmonger Party. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:18:48
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However another article from the same online source, and moreover one that is linked with the above article would suggest otherwise: quote:
Almost two-thirds of people would support a "pay-as-you-throw" system of collecting household waste, a Local Government Association survey suggests
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:21:10
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Some want it but
not enough. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:29:01
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Some want it but
not enough.
So please explain how you have determined that the government has done a u-turn because it listened to the public?quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Yes New Labour have had a U -Turn on this,
due to public viewpoints.
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:42:35
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Simple it has been Debated on Question Time
and all News on Radio and TV. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:47:32
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Originally posted by long time no see
Simple it has been Debated on Question Time
and all News on Radio and TV.
If 2/3 of the public are for it and the government is against it how can the government being against it be down to the government listening to the public? |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 07:49:44
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That is not a correct amount.
Polls are not to be taken as bang on right. |
Edited by - long time no see on 30/10/2007 07:52:11 |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:01:10
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
That is not a correct amount.
Polls are not to be taken as bang on right.
True ... polls are to be taken with a pinch of salt. Having said that, you would need a ruddy shovel and a half of the stuff, and then some, to get from 2/3 of the public in favour to a public that is against.
Still, I take it that yet again we are not going to get a straight answer out of you. |
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long time no see
Earthsea
United Kingdom
6771 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:04:20
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Who is "we"
It appears only you Follow my posts like a blood hound. |
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Miriam Binder
Earthsea
United Kingdom
5815 Posts |
Posted - 30/10/2007 : 08:05:33
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quote:
Originally posted by long time no see
Who is "we"
It appears only you Follow my posts like a blood hound.
Me, myself and I and anybody else who reads these posts! |
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A new meaning to "additionality"?